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  Is anything holy?

  by Half banana in

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  is anything holy?.

  i would maintain that holiness can only come from the attitude of people ascribing something as holy.

  holiness never comes from the "holy" object, spirit or humans described as being holy..

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  It’s clearly a mistake to use the word ‘holy’ as the puns are just irresistible! Instead I’ll use the equivalent word ‘sacred’ ...any puns on sacred? Errr, no, don’t think so...

  My thought is that ”nothing is sacred”...how can it be since sacredness is a human construct and objects and places cannot declare they are holy or sacred. They are ‘set apart’ (= sacred) not by themselves but by the collective feelings of communities. As for holy people, if they say they are 'holy' then that immediately disqualifies them from being so. As Spike Milligan said “My uncle was a great man, he told me so himself.” The governing body have recently declared themselves to be holy ones by virtue of being the anointed of God...what a bunch of clowns!

  They are conspicuously unholy...but does anyone think holiness/sacredness is real?
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  An anthropologist visits a JW community in Santa María Zapotitlán, Mexico

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. beliefs

  dr. jena barchas-lichtenstein is an anthropologist who received her doctorate through ucla.. https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jena-barchas-lichtenstein/43/427/702.

  in 2013, barchas-lichtenstein submitted the paper "when the dead are resurrected, how are we going to speak to them?

  ": jehovah's witnesses and the use of indigenous languages in the globalizing textual community as a partial submission for her doctoral dissertation..

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  How slimy of the Watchtower to corrupt even the languages of vulnerable ethnic peoples. They do it because they imagine they are God’s chosen ones and therefore can disregard trifles like linguistic heritage.

  They act like ISIS does and would subsume all culture and its history to their deluded will.

  JW org is a menace to the rest of humanity.
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  May KM Highlight 1/Cong baptized

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at 2014 conventions (regional?

  ) 14,039 baptized.

  outstanding for 13,871 congs!

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  Half banana

  There is an obvious explanation of the survey numbers exceeding the WT figures. It is the nature of the JW religion to have many who identify with them and hold to the basic doctrine because they were brought up in the faith but no longer comply with the 'conservative' WTBTS criterion for returning a publishers report. This includes faders and disfellowshipped who still believe.

  It is however to my surprise from reading here how the conservative figure itself disguises the fact that many JWs turn in false reports to maintain their identity and credibility in the congregations.
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  Is anything holy?

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is anything holy?.

  i would maintain that holiness can only come from the attitude of people ascribing something as holy.

  holiness never comes from the "holy" object, spirit or humans described as being holy..

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  I don’t know about yours Cappy but my underwear and socks are indeed holy but since no one else sees much of them they tend not to receive enough worship.

  Isn’t holiness the governing principle at the foundation of the whole Watchtower and religious delusion? To be a believer you need to succumb to the irrational notion that you are subject to the power of something holy?

  What is it which says something is holy? It’s the cult managers who decide what is good and bad karma. The ones who claim the Bible is holy and that they are the only interpreters of it...just like all the mullahs and rabbis, priests and cultists.

  Holiness surely comes from human social beliefs only; what god ever spoke? What animal ever worshipped?
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  Is anything holy?

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is anything holy?.

  i would maintain that holiness can only come from the attitude of people ascribing something as holy.

  holiness never comes from the "holy" object, spirit or humans described as being holy..

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  Half banana

  Is anything holy?

  I would maintain that holiness can only come from the attitude of people ascribing something as holy. Holiness never comes from the "holy" object, spirit or humans described as being holy.

  If you believe that something is holy are you not saying that you are therefore obligated to respect it?
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  WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.

  here is the ruling:.

  http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.

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  @conceptual, then I’m heartened to hear it. Lots of negative media exposure of the wretched organisation is what is required.

  The ideal is when the publicity is so bad and universal that nobody would want to identify with the JW org for fear of looking like an idiot.

  I just want to add that the reason for the WTBTS acting the way they do over child sex abuse is twofold. 1, they are delusional about their role "appointed by God" which empowers them to be autocratic and 2, they use a reference from the Bible (two witnesses) to justify their actions.

  The law of the land and the press are now exposing their stupidity in both areas; their right to feel they are above the law and the crassness of using a book of fairy tales as a guide to life.

  Most of thinking, feeling humanity have moved on from this primitive position... but not the Borg.
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  WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.

  here is the ruling:.

  http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.

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  Sorry to be a party pooper but Private Eye satirises matters and scandals which are common knowledge. I regret to say that I'm not so sure that what we find important is on everyone else's radar as yet.
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  To all anointed wannabe losers, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, OR ELSE!!!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. beliefs

  once again the beloved and loving governing body are demonstrating their utmost disdain for the rank and file members of the jehovah church.

  let us review this interesting trend, starting with some facts!

  yay, facts!!!

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  I loved their former, rather avuncular pie-in-the-sky vision that the tiny remnant of the anointed would usher in the great crowd of lesser mortals through the trauma of Armageddon into the ‘cleansed earth’. This smells of Freddie Franz’s blissful idealism. The concept of being anointed, apart from their self appointment to heaven, has become an accusation and challenge to their role as divine appointees. The heavenly hope is now reduced to nothing more than a pain in their butt.

  The passage of time shows every teaching of the Watchtower org to be a meaningless fantasy.
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  WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.

  here is the ruling:.

  http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.

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  Half banana

  For JW leaders to get a "grip on reality" would mean the dismantling of the WTBTS...

  They have lamely played their usual delaying tactics but disregarded the human care of the victims within their own ranks. They deserve to be exposed for the heartless narcissists that they are.
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  WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.

  here is the ruling:.

  http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.

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  Half banana

  @88JM, Ok let's say loss of tax concessions are a big nail in their coffin! I do hope so.